Chun. The Who’s Who of The Chinese In New York 1918 edition lists them as
members of a drug store business. Ironically, Detectives of the New York narcotics
squad staged a mock raid on an “opium den” at this location in 1932. It was filmed as a
Fox Movietone short on police adventures and so incensed the locals that a huge riot
ensued.

The Chinese Theatre operated at 5-7 Doyers Street. The venue was Chinese themed but
For a time, its sharp curve earned Doyle Street the nickname of “Bloody Angle,” as it
was the site of numerous gang street battles and murders. An alleged network of
tunnels connecting several buildings also made for easy getaways. you can see how
sharp the curve is.  The street, essentially an old cart path, is named for Hendrick
Doyer, who ran a distillery here in the 1800’s. It’s very narrow, and feels removed
from the intense hustle and bustle of the heart of Chinatown.

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Doyers St. is one of the
only curved streets in
Manhattan.
www.flickr.com/photos/scoutingny/4453289112/
Doyers St. with Chinese Opera House on the left.
Library of Congress, 1909
http://www.nychinatown.org/history/photos/doyers20.html
Same view 2010.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scoutingny/4453301876/
In 1909, according to the NY Times, “the most bloody tong war in Chinatown history
begins when the Hip Sings kill an On Leong comedian for being disrespectful.”
Then
Now
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The Chinese Tuxedo was an upscale Chinese restaurant
that opened its doors in 1897. It was located in New York’
s famous Chinatown at 2 Doyers Street (top floor) in
Chatham Square, on Manhattan’s Lower East Side. This
particular photo appears to have been taken around 1900-
1910. The 1908 World Almanac & Encyclopedia has a
listing for the restaurant promoting it as  “the highest art of
Chinese cooking”. A bag and luggage store operated under
the restaurant on the ground level floor. You can see a
trunk displayed in the window just above the small boy on
the right side of the photo. Today, it is occupied by a
branch of the Chase Manhattan Bank.

H. Zang’s Milk Depot was located directly across the street
at 1 Doyers Street. The business boasted “milk bottled on
the farm” and “sold by the glass”. Old fashioned milk cans
are visible on the sidewalk near the cellar door.

Next Door, at 4 Doyers Street,  Fong Wing, Chu Gung
Yue and Chu Sing Feng comprised the firm of Hang Lum
Answer to Quiz #260
June 13, 2010
Talea's Observations
There has been some discussion this week among the readers about what is at the
location of the former address of the Chinese Tuxedo Restaurant..

The curb line at the intersection of Doyers and Bowery is the same now as it was in the
early 1900s. see
http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1757.  I suspect the address of the
building on the corner has changed since the entrance to the Chase Bank now faces
Bowery, while the entrance to the Chinese Tuxedo faced Doyers.  See also the
interactive map at
http://mondomap.com/?bid=155&vid=22499  It gives the Doyers
address to the building on the corner, indicating this is the right location, although it's
officially 2 Bowery.

1.  What was the address of this building?
2.  What kind of establishment was it?
3.  What is located there today?
Remarks from the Quizmaster General
Comments from Our Readers
From Google Books
How Karl Solved the Puzzle
A simple Google image search of "Chinese Tuxedo" very quickly
found a Flickr  image dating from 1910 identifying the building, the
address and its original use . From the address, using Google Maps
with Street View, what is currently located there was readily
determined.

My further investigation after submitting my entry found that the
Tuxedo  was upstairs in the building and down stairs was a store
selling trunks and bags. You are probably aware of this already. In
case you aren’t, the info comes from a Google Book search which
turned up Manhattan's Chinatown By Daniel  Ostrow and Mary
Sham. The online extract has some lovely old photos of the building
and inside the Tuxedo. The link, if it works, is:  
http://books.google.com...

Karl Brossard
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Note the curb line is the same in both pictures.
Doyers St.
http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1757
Answers:

1. 2 Doyers St., New York, NY
2.  A high class restaurant
3.  Chase Bank
Then
Now
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Detailed Analysis by Diane Burkett
Quizmaster Extraordinaire
The thing that's stumped me is the "what's there now" part.

The present #2 Doyers is noted on Manhattan property records as
being 39 feet deep but having only 9 frontage feet and having no
building on it.











http://www.city-data.com/ny-properties/assessments/Manhattan/D/Doyers-Street-1.html

At #6 now is a US Post Office built in 1977, on what had originally
been the site of Hendrick Doyer's distillery.  Clearly the footprint of
the USPS is larger than the beer garden pictured at #6 in the Chinese
Tuxedo photo.  Its present structure begins at the 2nd angle on
Doyers (just at the rear of the horsewagon in the picture) and
encompasses what had been #4, #6 and #8 Doyers St.















The Hip Kee Beauty Salon is presently at #10 Doyers.















Moving back toward Bowery, the present large corner lot has 30
frontage feet on Bowery (#2 Bowery) but is 72 feet deep and on an
irregularly shaped lot.  The depth of this lot includes the first angle on
Doyers by the ghostly dog.   It is the home to a branch of Chase
Bank with either offices or apartments on the upper floors.  The
present 5-story structure was built in 1915.

I believe the rear of #2 Bowery was originally the location of the
Chinese Tuxedo at #2 Doyers.

http://www.city-data.com/ny-properties/assessments/Manhattan/B/Bowery-1.html  

All that's left of #2 Doyers is essentially an alleyway.
















Diane Burkett
Quizmaster Extraordinaire

N.B.  See my remarks above.  Remember too, that Google Maps is
only approximate and can be off several feet from the actual
location of an address.










                                                   
                                                                      - Q. Gen.
At first I got frustrated by only the top quarter of the picture opening as a large image
when I clicked on it, started to send an email to ask if you could fix it, then realized that
the information I needed was "Chinese Tuxedo". Googling that gave me the answers to
the first two questions, and Google Earth Street View  provided the third. It amazes me
how quickly despair can turn to triumph if I just LOOK!                       
Peter Norton

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As far as I can tell there is no longer an establishment that has that specific address. A
Chase Manhattan bank is now located at the corner of Doyers and Bowery, but its
address is 2 Bowery Street. By comparing the three circular devices on the columns
behind the man and child in the right foreground, and the shape of the building, with a
street-level view of the bank in Google maps, it is obvious the man and child are
standing near the corner of Doyers and Bowery Streets. Although its not obvious, the
bank may even extend up Doyers Street to what appears to be the entrance of the
Chinese Tuxedo restaurant which may explain why there is no longer an establishment
with a 2 Doyers Street address.                                                        
Daniel E. Jolley

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It's not far from Mulberry Street:  "And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street."  
Gosh, darn that Mulberry Street is in Springfield, MA. My Imagination is being stifled
today. Dr. Suess wrote the book "I saw it on Mulberry Street."  If you are in a book
store or a library, take a look.  All kinds of weird things happen on that street which I
thought had to be in New York.                                                               
Judy Pfaff

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This 1901 photo on Doyers St. was taken at the "bloody angle" where "tong wars"
occurred.                                                                                              
Stan Read

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What a beautiful building!                                                          
Karen Kay Bunting

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There is an artifact of a man walking to the left of the man with the dark pants, jacket
and hat with a white shirt and his hands in his pockets. Was he walking while the
picture was being taken and therefor blurred? Same with the dog(?) to the left of him.
                                                                                             
Sharon Taber

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Colleen- Again, working in NYC, I would be in serious trouble from my co-workers, if
I got this one wrong ! Have a great week!                           
Robert W. Steinmann Jr.

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Thanks Colleen - Yes, at first I thought it WAS a clothing store!  Thanks for the
quizzes - I have gotten my 13 year old niece interested in them as well.  She's a pretty
smart cookie.  :)                                                                    
Deborah Lee Stewart

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I almost didn't get that one.  Fortunately I found the photo on a site that had photos
from the interior and indicated it was a beer house.  I also found the stories about
"Blood Alley" interesting.

The Chinese word for beer is pijiu (pronounced pee-joe) so you maybe right how it got
it's name.  I noticed there were two "tuxedo" sign on the alley so I wonder if one was a
legitimate tuxedo shop. I love historical photos like that!!                             
Teresa Yu

N.B.                                                           - Q. Gen.

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I used the on-line White Pages and did a "reverse address lookup" on 2 Doyers Street....
that's where I came up with the names and apartment number. Here is a website with a
couple of interior shots of the old place and a picture of the outside today.
http://www.shorpy.com/node/8315

As to how it came to have that name, your guess is as good as mine.. it was a high-end
restaurant for the period and the word "tuxedo" is transliterated into Chinese sinography
as "dinner jacket" so the proprietors were possibly looking to market their restaurant to
a more affluent demographic. Thanks for the puzzle.. it was fun :o)
   John Fitzpatrick

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Good to hear from you, I really do enjoy working on the quizzes. I did at first think the
photo was of a clothing store or tailor shop and was surprised to find it was a
restaurant. A good lesson in not making assumptions. It would be interesting to see one
of their menu's.

I enjoyed searching and learning the history of that particular area of New York's
Chinatown. Once I found out the street address it was fun to compare the Google Earth
present day street scene with the quiz photo. You can still see some characteristics of
the area that remain.

Thanks for letting me know I was correct, with each quiz I hope to improve my
research skills. It would be interesting to find out what the phonic sound of Tuxedo
would be equal to in the Chinese language.

Very interesting historical part of Chinatown.                                   
Sharon Mufferi

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I googled chinese tuxedo and came up Tuxedo  Restaurant. Contest photo image found
on
www.shorpy.com.The address is 2 Doyers St. New York, New York 10013-51560.
The Chase Bank appears to occupy the location today. I checked address on white
pages and came up with a Ng family living in an apartment above and with a William
Ng who gives this locale as his home -- he is a acupuncturist and herbalist. The 360
view seems to have been updated and improved on mapquest.                  
Mike Dalton
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There has been some discussion about
what is at the address among the readers.  If
you look at the pictures, it has to be the
Chase Bank.  However, the Chase Bank is
listed as being located a 2 Bowery St while
the Tuxedo was at 2 Doyers.

I think the reason the address changed for
the same location is that the Chase Bank
opens to Bowery St., while the restaurant
opened to Doyers.

Colleen
Not sure I agree with Talea
that there is a window
behind the boy.   Note that
the boy is partly transparent
because he moved during
the exposure.         - Q. Gen.
the theatre catered to American tourists. The building
was sold in 1910 to Thomas J. Noonan’s Rescue
Society. It was use as a mission to provide for the
needy and offer religious enlightenment.

Just down the block at 6 Doyers Street was famous
The Chatham Club where Al Jolson and Irving Berlin
sang, actor Chuck Connors was rumored to have been
a bouncer and Geo. Ehret’s Extra Beer was probably a
favorite.

As if this is not enough, this photo says so much
more. I didn’t even get around to the ice wagon, the
shady looking character with the dark eyes (and semi-
transparent leg) or the other local gents, the brown
and black derby hats, the small (semi-transparent) boy in the dirty white shirt, the odd
symbols on the left hand sidewalk, the fair weather, the column Mr. Fancy Dress is
leaning on, the October 19th Sloane poster, the rocks oddly placed on the right hand
sidewalk and my personal favorite, the many ghostly images that haunt the photo
throughout.

A photo such as this can be found on shorpy.com. The URL is
http://www.shorpy.com/node/8315?size=_original

This was a great photo quiz! I like the oldies the best! Thanks Colleen!

Talea Jurrens
N. B. According to the perpetual calendar at
www.searchforancestors.com/utility..., October 19 occurred
on a Saturday only  in 1907 and 1912 during the probable
time period of the photograph.                             -Q. Gen.
FROM CHOW TO NOW

There was an Upscale Restaurant,
Chinese Tuxedo, was the name,
At the Bowery and 2 Doyers streets,
In the City of "BiG APPLE" fame.

Things have changed over the years,
A new active enterprise in its place,
Now there is an upscale banking  group,
On that very corner, by the name of Chase.

As usual, in haste….

Quiz Poet Laureate
Robert Edward McKenna

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