by Margaret M. Phelan (p.164) on the website of the Butler Society

If you searched within The History, Architecture, and Antiquities of the Cathedral
Church of St. Canice, Kilkenny
you'd find a section, starting on about p. 131, that
discusses the various effigial monuments found in the cathedral. You would find a
sketch of the tomb in the quiz photo on p. 136. You could recognize it by the ferret-like
animal at the foot of the effigy.
Some Quizmasters found this quiz easy, others found it
difficult. The best way to solve the puzzle was to search
on Google Books for "Viscount Thurles", which is a hint
provided by the plaque on the wall.  This would lead you to
The History, Architecture, and Antiquities of the Cathedral
Church of St. Canice, Kilkenny
by James Graves, revealng
the location as St. Canice's Cathedral in Kilkenny, Ireland.
Searching Google on "St. Canice Cathedral" +effigy would
lead you to the family genealogy of James Butler, Ninth
Earl of Ormond on

l.  You would find a photo of his tomb on this page.

Another hint at the location is found by searching on
"Butler Tombs", you would find a reference to
Tombs and Furnishings in St Canice's Cathedral, Kilkenny
with different coloured marble from the four provinces of

There is a large collection of ancient stone monuments
with carvings going back to mediaeval times. Nicholas
Walsh, pioneer translater of the Bible into Irish is buried

The ancient stone of enthronement for bishops, called
The inscription above the tomb is for a much more
recent descendant of James the Lame.  James George
Anson Butler, 5th Marquess of Ormonde was born on 18
April 1890, the son of James Arthur Wellington Foley
Butler, 4th Marquess of Ormonde, and died on 21 June
1949. He married Hon. Sybil Inna Mildred Fellowes (b.
1888), who was first cousin to Rt Hon Sir Winston
Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965), former Prime
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Quiz #117 Results
Answer to Quiz #117
July 8, 2007
1.  Where is this tomb located?
Bonus Questions:
A. Whose effigy is on this sarcophagus
B. How and where did he die??
(Be careful and don't jump to conclusions on the bonus questions..)
1.  SE corner, St. Canice's Cathedral, Kilkenney, Co. Kilkenney, Ireland
2. James Butler, 9th Earl of Ormond
3. He was poisoned in Ely House, Holborn, London, on 17 Oct 1546.
Comments from Our Readers
The Sarcophagi
BUTLER is an occupational name, but it used
to have a slightly different meaning. In large
medieval households the Butler was the
person in charge of the wine.  Since many
powerful nobles lived in fear of being
poisoned, this was a position of considerable
trust.  There are a number of different
families called Butler, some of which can be
traced back to origins in different medieval
households in the British Isles. In Latin, the
name was Buticularius or Pincerna.  There
used to be many variations in spelling, such as
Boteler, Boutillier, Botiller, Butiller, and
Botyller.  Modern variations include Boutler
(France), Buttlar (Germany) and Buteler

How the Butler Family Became Powerful

Theobald FitzWalter, or Walter, who
accompanied Henry II into Ireland, was
rewarded for his loyalty to the Crown in 1177
The Butlers and
St. Canice's Cathedral
Kilkenny, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland
James George Anson Butler, 23 Earl of Ormonde
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The James "The Lame" 9th Earl of Ormonde whose effigy
is shown in the photo was 10th great-grandfather to
James George Anson Butler, 5th Marquess of Ormonde,
who is mentioned on the wall plaque.  I can provide the
full descent for you to inclue if you wish.

This was much more fun to research, at least for me,
even though I can find no personal connetions to it this
time.  That is, unless you count that the son James
Anthony Butler (1916-1940) was, according the my
FTM programme, half-15th cousin, 3 times removed, to
my wife. :-)  Thank you.                            
Brett Payne

I am the Queen of Google.. <g> Initially I ought it was
related to the plaque above on the wall, but then realized
that the dates didn't jive; then spent a little time on the
Mountgarret red herring, too..

Took a while to find the cause of death, though.. FYI-
most sites say poisoned, as though it was a deliberate act,
but I've seen one site that referred to it as "food
poisoning" and made it sound like an unfortunate accident..
Mary Fraser
Quiz Tip
Built between 1202 and 1285
this graceful cathedral has
been preserved in its original
style. St. Canice's Cathedral is
richly endowed with many
stained glass windows. The
choir stalls are decorated with
fine continental carvings and
the sanctuary floor is paved  
Kilkenny Castle
Seat of the Butler family.
Kilkenny Castle
as seen from the River Nore.
with the hereditary title Chief Butler of Ireland. It is now the oldest surviving British
dignity. The family took their surname Butler from this. Theobald was awarded
Plaque at the site of
the Abbey of Owenry,
burial place of
Theobald FitzWalter
generous grants of land in counties Limerick, Tipperary and
Wicklow. The Butlers were also granted Baggotrath, Co. Dublin,
and the Stein River lands around what is now Trinity College
Dublin.  Thomas founded the Abbey of Owney, Abingdon, Co.
Limerick c. 1196, built Nenagh Castle, Co. Tipperary, c. 1200.
He died in 1205, or 1206, and is buried in Abbey of Owney,
Abingdon, Co.Limerick (or "Wotheney Abbey, Co.Limerick").

The Butler Dynasty

Theobald Botiller, 4th Chief Butler of Ireland (d. 1285) was
the Butler who was awarded the Royal grant of the "prisage of
wines", which meant he was entitled to "about one tenth of the
cargo of any wine shipment that broke bulk in Ireland".  In 1810,
Butler Peerage

First 650 Years
(Partial List)

Theobald FitzWalter
Chief Butler of Ireland
d. 1205
m. Margaret FitzGerald

Theobald le Botiller
2d Butler
d. 19 Jul 1230
m. Joan de Marisco

Theobald le Botiller
3d Butler & Lord Justice
of Ireland
d. 1248
m. Margery de Burgh

Theobald le Botiller
4th Butler
d. 1285
m. Joan fitzJohn
(Descendant of

Edmund le Botiller
6th Butler, Styled Earl of
Carrick & Lord Lieutenant
of Ireland (1312-1316)
d. 1321
m. Joan FitzGerald

James Butler
1st Earl of Ormonde &
Chief Butler of Ireland
m. Alianore de Bohun
(granddau of
Edward I,
first cousin of
Edward III)

James Butler
2nd Earl of Ormonde,
Constable of Dublin Castle
& Chief Governor of
m. Elizabeth d'Arcy

James Butler
3rd Earl of Ormonde &
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland
bef. 1376-1405
m. Anne Wells

James Butler
4th Earl of Ormonde
m. Joan Beauchamp

James Butler of Wilshire
5th Earl of Ormonde &
Earl of Wilshire
m1. Avice Stafford
m2. Eleanore Beaufort

John Butler
6th Earl of Ormonde
d. bef. 15 Jun 1477

Thomas Butler
7th Earl of Ormonde
d. 13 Aug 1515
m1. Anne Hankeford
m2. Lore Berkeley

Piers Butler
8th Earl of Ormonde,
1st Earl of Ossory,
1st. Seneschal of the
Liberty of Tipperary, &
Chief Governor of Ireland
abt. 1467-26 Aug 1539
m. Margaret FitzGerald

James Butler
9th Earl of Ormonde,
2nd Earl of Ossory, &
Viscount Thurles
abt. 1496-28 Oct 1546
m. Joan FitzGerald

Thomas Dubh Butler
10th Earl of Ormonde,
3rd Earl of Ossory,
Chief Butler of Ireland, &
Lord Treasurer of Ireland
m1. Elizabeth Berkely
m2. Elizabeth Sheffield
m3. Helen Barry

Walter Butler
11th Earl of Ormonde
4th Earl of Ossory
b. 1569, d. 24 Feb 1632
m. Helen Butler

James Butler
12th Earl of Ormonde,
1st Duke of Ormonde,
5th Earl of Ossory,
Earl of Desmond, Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland, &
Lord Steward of England
10 Oct 1610 - 21 Jul 1688
m. Elizabeth Preston,
Baroness Dingwall

Thomas Butler
6th Earl of Ossory
Lord Deputy of Ireland
Baron Butler
m. Emilia von Nassau

James Butler
14th Earl of Ormonde,
2nd Duke of Ormonde,
7th Earl of Ossory,
Earl of Brecknock,
Baron Butler of Lanthony,
Lord Butler of Moore Park,
Earl of Ossory, Viscount
Thurles, & Lord Dingwall
29 April 1665-Nov 1745
m1. Anne Hyde
m2. Mary Somerset
Lady of the Bedchamber

Charles Butler
3rd Duke of Ormonde,
14th Earl of Ormonde,
8th Earl of Ossory,
1st Earl of Arran,
Viscount of Tullogh
Baron of Cloughgrenan, &
Lord Butler of England
m1. Elizabeth Crew
m2. Anne Airmine

See also
this rewarding office was declared redundant and Walter Butler, Marquess of Ormond,
fell heir to 2l6,000 pounds in compensation.

Consolidating their position, the Butlers ringed the country with castles, married
noble Irish ladies, fervently built churches and abbeys and
went on the Crusades. Because of their closeness to the
English court, the Butlers collected at least 25 patents of
nobility, so that branches of the house of Ormond-the
main Butler designation--included such titles as Dunboyne,
Cahir, Mountgarrett, Galmoy, Ossory. There have been a
number of Butler bishops, including Edmund, Prior of
Athassel Abbey in Tipperary for fourteen years until 1537,
when Thomas Cromwell deposed him. The Butlers fell
victim to the Cromwellians, who feared their power in
Ireland. They were strong military men, who took part in
all the main battles from Agincourt in France to the Boyne
and Aughrim.

Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond (d. 1515), was
grandfather to Anne Boleyn, second wife of Henry VIII,
who, although she lost her head, provided him with the
daughter who was to become Queen Elizabeth I. This
fearsome queen features in voluminous Butler records.
Her cousin, the
10th Earl of Ormond, Thomas Butler
(d. 1614), who had been reared at the English court, built
a magnificent Tudor manor at Carrick-on-Suir, County
Tipperary, expecting her to visit him, which she failed to
do. Black Tom, as the 10th Earl of Ormond was
nicknamed, was a prime example. Three times married, he
had, apart from his legal offspring, twelve known
illegitimate children. One of his natural sons who received
considerable estates from his father,
Piers Fitzthomas
Butler, according to a strong local tradition, was the fruit
of Thomas' affection for the Virgin Queen!

The Butlers and the FitzGeralds, the mighty Earls of
Kildare, despite intermarrying, were constantly feuding.
Between them they alternated the administration of Ireland.

The 1600s Forward

Eight Butlers held the office of Viceroy of Ireland.
Because of his fidelity to the royal house of Stuart during
the Cromwellian usurpations, Charles II raised
Butler, the 12th Earl (1610-1688), to the Dukedom of
Ormond, together with a variety of other titles. James
played an important role in the affairs of both England and
Ireland. He was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Chancellor
of the universities of both Dublin and Oxford. He helped
incorporate the College of Physicians and founded the
Royal Record Office and the Genealogical Office in Dublin
Castle. Another of the great Duke's benefactions was
Dublin's Phoenix Park. Its 1,752 acres make it larger than
all of London's parks put together and it is still greatly
enjoyed by today's citizens. James, the lst Duke of
Ormond, described as a very straight man, a prime
example of the remarkable talents of the Butlers in the field
of administration, was awarded the distinction of burial in
Westminster Abbey.  
St. Canice Cathedral
Saint Kieran's chair dates
back to earliest Christian

Beside the cathedral stands a
round tower. This was used
as a watchtower and refuge
in pre-Norman times. It is
believed to have been built
Cathedral Interior
around 849 and is around 100 feet tall. It lacks its original
conical stone cap but provides visitors with the best view
of Kilkenny City.

New research shows the old St Canice's was built on the
east side of the round tower closest to the River Nore.
The building appears to have been substantial and may
have been similar to the famous Romanesque churches at
Cashel and Ardmore.

The Normans demolished the original church in the late
12th century to cow local residents. The magnificent
cathedral that stands to this day was then constructed to
impress on locals the extent of Norman power.
St. Canices Cathedral, Kilkenny,
Ireland, Tombs of Piers Butler, 8th
Earl of Ormonde (b. abt. 1467, d. 1539)
and his wife Margaret FitzGerald (d.
1542) (foreground) and their son
James Butler, 9th Earl of Ormonde (b.
abt. 1496, d. 28 Oct 1546)
Thomas Dubh
"Black Tom"
Sketches of Effigies on Lids
of Sacrophagi

James Butler
Ninth Earl of Ormond
abt. 1496-1546

Piers Butler
8th Earl of Ormonde
b. abt. 1467, d. 1539
and his wife
Margaret FitzGerald
d. 1542

The History, Architecture, and
Antiquities of the Cathedral
Church of St. Canice,
By James Graves
Google Books
Click on thumbnails to see
larger images.
James Butler, Ninth Earl of Ormonde
abt. 1496-28 Oct 1546
The effigy is that of James (The Lame) Butler, 9th  Earl of Ormonde, and is located in
St Canice Cathedral, Kilkenny, Ireland.  The earl, together with many of his servants,
was poisoned on 17 October 1546 in London, while being entertained to supper at Ely
House in Holborn. He died 28 Oct 1546.

James was brought up at the court of Henry VIII, who apparently thought much of
him, and created him Viscount Thurles while his father was still alive.  He was Lord
High Treasurer of Ireland for 14 years and was given no less than seven religious
establishments on the Dissolution of the Monasteries. The confusion caused by his Will
gave rise to the founding of the Irish Public Record Office.

The sarcophagus beneath the effigy is supposed to contain his heart, which was returned
from England.  The remainder of his body, however, is buried at St Thomas of Acon, in
Minister of the United Kingdom.  The 5th Marquess's wife and son are also mentioned
on the inscription. Their son, JAMES ANTHONY, 1916-1940, unmarried.